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Toon D
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Post subject: Wishlist 2011/2012.  Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:21 pm |
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Hi all,
First off. This thread is to gather up the wishes of Arles users.
So, add you're wish(es) to this thread, but keep it short and to the point, but include a reason why. See the next post. (I will compile the wishes later into one POLL thread.)
The list will have to be voted on, to narrow it down to 3 (possibly 5, IF Jan has spare time left, gives up his vacation, and does not eat for a month. LOL.) else none will really get the priority we are asking Jan to give it.
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I have changed the title of this thread and shortened this post. Also i will let this thread run for longer. What with the total rewrite of Arles and Jan having to put bread on the table and thus (unfortunately) Arles development being pushed to evening/weekend work.
I've been assured that Jan will continue development of Arles, but because of the above, it has to be in spare time. Once Jan gets the bugs out of the rewrite (v9.0.x) we can appeal to Jan to add/implement the most voted for new options.
But please continue to add your wishes in the meantime.
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Greets all,
Toon D.
Last edited by Toon D on Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:27 pm |
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Hi all,
To start things off, here are my wishes in order of my priority.
A option to have Arles read the filename of the Image and place it in a
user defined IPTC field.
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Multiple Top/First Index Pages for Multi Folder Galleries. (At present Arles
allows only 1 Top index, whilst subindices can be multiple pages.)
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Seperate Titling for Indices consisting of multiple pages.
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Scaleable global font size for the Arles Program. (with 22+ inch
widescreen monitors more common the text size is getting hard to read)
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Greets.
Toon D.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:37 pm |
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What I really would like to see is some attention for image SEO. All my images are properly IPTC-tagged for stock and in Titles>Advanced, it's really simple and well done to use those tags.
There is already the Page Title (Page Caption) as a rudimentary way of SEO, but nothing is provided for the META tags "description" and "keywords". I know you can put it in the HTML design under "head", but then I'd have to do it manually for every image.
Which is of course unfeasible for 1000's of images. Especially since "description" (IPTC-caption) and "keywords" (IPTC-keywords) are already filled in the IPTC.
It could well fit into the Advanced Title Options window both under Index Pages and Image Pages, with full access to the text generation script, looking something like META description and META keywords, outputting the corresponding meta info into the <head> of the HTML page.
A second thing vital for SEO is the ability to rename the image file name for upload to something that makes sense to the image bots, like the image title (IPTC-object name). For instance an image "DSC_12345.jpg" with title (IPTC object name) = "Doctor examining coughing patient" should be renamed for upload to "doctor-examining-coughing-patient-DSC12345.jpg" (replace spaces by hyphens and all to lower case - adding original name to avoid conflicts for images with the same title).
These (simple additions) would make Arles very attractive for the large group of stock photographers that want an online presence and break into Google Images.
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Toon D
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:24 pm |
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Hiya HM,
SEO ???
Please explain, so we may all understand.
Just thought i'd ask.
Greets.
Toon D.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:44 pm |
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Search Engine Optimization = SEO. Like how to score high in Google and Google images (this also applies to other search engines like Yahoo, Bing...).
As the robots (bots) that crawl the web regularly can only see text and not see images, you'll have to help them by surrounding your image(s) with text.
The bots try to make up what the image is about by looking at
1. the page title (the <title> tag,
2. the META description in the <head> section,
3. the META keywords in the <head> section,
4. text surrounding the image, preferably in the same <DIV>,
5. ALT and TITLE tags,
6. the file name of the image.
Currently, the bots don't read the IPTC metadata.
The current Arles addresses 1,4 and 5 (if you use the titles cleverly), but not 2,3 and 6.
Read here for instance:
http://www.theseoworld.com/blog/google- ... imization/
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Edit: adding an xml sitemap focused on images would also be very useful for SEO. Without a proper sitemap, your images will not rank high in Google Images, as the automatic robots will address the design elements (like buttons) and thumbs too and assume from the many repeats that the site isn't an image site. The image robots are not that clever, and they can't "see" images. Amongst the many images referenced on a single image page (if you add navigation), there will only be one relevant image reference near the end of the page, but the bots will have giving up crawling your site already then. Moreover, they will get confused since the image is on another page than the HTML of it 
For each image page in /imagepages, an entry should be added to the sitemap.xml file like this:
Code: <loc>http://www.mysite.com/galleries/imagepages/paris-image1.html</loc> <image:image> <image:loc>http://www.mysite.com/galleries/images/paris-by-night-eiffeltower-DCS001.jpg</image:loc> <image:title>Paris by night with the Eiffel Tower silhouette.</image:title> </image:image> <lastmod>2010-08-20T11:18:13+00:00</lastmod> <priority>1.00</priority> </url> As I see it, it can easily be handled in the Titles>advanced, adding a log file and tokens for (absolute URL of page) and (absolute URL of image). The image title can be taken from the IPTC or whatever with the already existing tokens.
I can assure you that this will open a large market for Arles with (semi-) pro stock photographers (hundreds of thousands on Shutterstock alone) that want to push themselves in Google Images.
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Post subject: Re: Wishlist 2010/2011. Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:35 am |
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1/ I was wanting to do an Image Shopping Cart, so the ability to 'tick' thumbnails/images to add to the cart would be wonderful.
That would also allow the possibility of creating online catalogs etc...
There is probably a bolt-on like lightbox to do this but I'm unaware of it.
There appears to be a place for a web design package as a wrapper for Arles also. That would make it the photographer's dream.
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Post subject: Re: Wishlist 2010/2011. Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:18 pm |
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It would be nice if there was a simple way to include GeoTagging information in the <head> section of the HTML without having to manually build the code to insert it. Most people won't understand how to do this.
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Post subject: Re: Wishlist 2010/2011. Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:58 pm |
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Ability to tag files on the web, drop box select size, finish etc... add them to a Shopping Cart via a PayPal link.
New images fields could include Size, Finish, Price, Comment etc...
I understand the back end can be handled entirely by PayPal.
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Post subject: Re: Wishlist 2010/2011. Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:58 pm |
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I think it might be a great idea to have an optional SWF Builder.
Lightbox is great, but an optional SWF would bring in a whole new market.
Steve
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Post subject: Re: Wishlist 2010/2011. Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:45 am |
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Just discovered this thread Toon. I thought Feedback and Suggestions was the place to post wished for features. Anyway, since you asked, I will reiterate the 5 wish list items I posted on the F&S forum:
1) A spell checker for titles.
2) An option to generate a WAP version of a gallery with or without the normal version. (More and more people are viewing web sites on handheld devices.)
3) An easy way to save all specific settings of a gallery as a template. I use a simple template now, plus saved navigation presets, and I still have to do manual tweaks like deleting image page tooltip. I'd like to be able to set a gallery up the way I like it and then save all those settings as one template with a simple "save as" command.
4) One or two additional miscellaneous navigation items for image and index pages that could be user defined. I'm using all the buttons/links now and I could use one more.
5) I'd like to be able to modify the global settings in a gallery for one image. I occasionally have the need to resize one image to different dimensions than the rest of the images in an album. I do it manually now, outside of Arles, but it would be handy to be able to check a box to change settings on that one image and image page.
Regards,
--jeff
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Post subject: Re: Wishlist 2011/2012. Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:07 am |
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Hi all,
It's been awhile since i started this thread.
Not that many responses.
Anyone else have a wish for future releases of Arles?
When i get some time i will start to integrate the wishes into some sort of poll.
If i even can.
Greets.
Toon D.
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Post subject: Re: Wishlist 2011/2012. Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:52 pm |
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Hi Toon...
I too have noticed this thread seems to have died on the vine. I just thought I'd mention, for whatever it's worth, that I'd still like to see the 5 features I mentioned in my post of 6 months ago. They would still be helpful to me.
--jeff
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Post subject: Re: Wishlist 2011/2012. Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:33 pm |
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Hi Jan,
A feature I'd like to see is the ability to rotate an image inside Arles by the decimal of a degree.
Sometimes I'll do a shoot and be off level just a bit and it would be very handy to do this inside the program.
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Post subject: Re: Wishlist 2011/2012. Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:50 am |
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Hiya Jeff,
Well i think (i say think) Jan may be nearing the end of the testing period of the Arles rewrite into v9. So i think we may see a true v9 Beta as compared to an Alpha release.
As to your 5 wishes, that may be a little too much to ask. I conversed with Jan on the wishlist and he basicly told me to gather and the compile the wishes into some sort of Poll to have the members vote on the list first.
He would then place much higher priority on the first 3 or so (possibly 5) if that does not interfere too much with his plans for Arles.
I'll let this thread run till the end of the month, then try to compile the posts into a Poll.
I will probably place a draft of the poll first for members to check and correct.
Greets.
Toon D.
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Post subject: Re: Wishlist 2011/2012. Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:23 pm |
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I am now geocoding my images with lat/long position data. I think that it would be really cool to have a button on the image page which takes you to Google Earth, Google Maps, or whatever mapping system that you want and displays the location of the image. I envision a button calling something like: i.e. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=%28@28.92658,-113.408%29This could be accomplished by allowing the user to define new buttons which includes a link field. The link needs to include tags so that they can insert things like IPTC fields. Is there any way to do this now? -- Geoff
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